Happy Leopard Day

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Just curious - but who else is getting the new version of OS X today? I preordered mine and it will be arriving via Fedex in the next two hours! I still feel like I'm a newbie to the Mac platform, but I'm definitely falling into the fan boy camp and I absolutely cannot wait to give Leopard a spin.

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Archived Comments

Comment 1 by Steve posted on 10/26/2007 at 5:19 PM

I've been waiting for the new version for a couple of months myself. I have put off getting my first MAC until now so that I could get the new OS at the same time. Hopefully, by Monday, I will have a couple of Windows machines that I've been using now for years ready for a community recycling. Getting ready to pull some HD's and go get a great computer.

Comment 2 by The Other Steve posted on 10/26/2007 at 5:24 PM

I woke up early today so that I could arrive at the Apple store early and get in line, but then I realized that they're not releasing it until 6pm today. Rats! Well, it might be an early day in the office.

Luckily, my Verizon contract expired yesterday, so I'll be picking up an iPhone as well.

Comment 3 by Chris posted on 10/26/2007 at 5:31 PM

If I could afford a MAC, I would be excited too...But, I love my Ubuntu 7.10! :)

Comment 4 by Chad posted on 10/26/2007 at 5:32 PM

I work in the printing industry and we DREAD the new OS releases. The worse was back in the OS7 - OS9 days.

We tell all of our clients to sit on their hands until we test the new OS and can give our seal of approval.

When Apple comes out with a new OS it seems like they throw the old OS out the window and start from scratch. So each version brings on it's own set of bugs ranging from network connectivity to software compatibility.

The network stuff has been the worse the last few releases. We literally had files on network shares disappear because of the way the OS tracked files. The 3rd party Macintosh file sharing software vendors had to scramble to make patches (Band-Aids) to try to prevent the problems until Apple got it fixed.

Comment 5 by Scott P posted on 10/26/2007 at 5:36 PM

Mine left Memphis at 4am which means I should have it around 4:30pm. I'm amazed that I am getting it anytime today and 4:30pm still beats 6pm in the stores.

Glad you are getting it early, be sure and have all of the issues figured out before 4:30 for me.

Comment 6 by Russ Johnson posted on 10/26/2007 at 5:38 PM

According to FedEx tracking, mine will be here in the next hour, supposed to be here by 10:30am EST. I cant wait!! New OS and a new office chair all in the same day!!

Comment 7 by Shane R. posted on 10/26/2007 at 5:40 PM

My copy arrived at 8:30am this morning (FedEx Priority Overnight)!

Comment 8 by Raymond Camden posted on 10/26/2007 at 5:43 PM

@ScottP - I'll work on that. ;) I'm just happy it is Fedex, not UPS. Fedex delivers in the morning while UPS arrives between 5 and 6.

Comment 9 by Leif Wells posted on 10/26/2007 at 5:44 PM

I really do not wish to rain on your parade, but...

I read on-line somewhere that ColdFusion was not running/installing well on Leopard. I am trying to figure out where I read that, but wanted you to know before you installed. Maybe someone can respond to this entry with their experiences.

Leif

Comment 10 by Raymond Camden posted on 10/26/2007 at 5:55 PM

I've heard as well - but I'm not concerned. I have a Windows box here I can run CF on, and for the laptop (which I'm converting first) I can run VM Fusion for the lappie when I'm remote.

Comment 11 by Michael posted on 10/26/2007 at 5:59 PM

I will be getting it today @ 6. looks like I need to test CF on one system before I install on both.

Comment 12 by Sammy Larbi posted on 10/26/2007 at 6:03 PM

I didn't realize that if I preordered it would get here on release date. Now that I've waited this long, I'll probably wait another month and see how smoothly (or not) everyone says the transition is.

I'm really relunctant to have any mishaps because I just spent so much time getting this one how I like it.

Of course, I'm also a little upset that I received it 10 days before Oct 1, when I could get it for $10. Now, I've got to come up with 130! I thought I read that I would get to upgrade a bit cheaper since even then we knew it was close to being released. But, now I think that was about IntelliJ IDEA, not MacOSX

Comment 13 by Raymond Camden posted on 10/26/2007 at 6:06 PM

Mine is here! :)

Comment 14 by Sammy Larbi posted on 10/26/2007 at 6:12 PM

Well, be sure and let us know about how smooth or not the transition is. And I don't want any fanboy excuses either - you better be honest. =)

Comment 15 by Sam Farmer posted on 10/26/2007 at 6:35 PM

Cool. Let us know how the install of CF goes Ray.

Comment 16 by Ian Winter posted on 10/26/2007 at 6:43 PM

My TNT tracking has said out for delivery all day, it's 3:41pm (in the UK) and no sign yet...

Have both my Macbook and new Mac Mini for it to go on :)

Comment 17 by Russ Johnson posted on 10/26/2007 at 6:49 PM

Mine just got here... only missed the 10:30 am mark by 20 minutes! Not Bad FedEx!

Comment 18 by George Bridgeman posted on 10/26/2007 at 7:06 PM

I'm going to wait a few weeks I think. I run CF on my Mac so need that to be working straight away which it apparently it doesn't at the mo. Some Firefox addons are having problems as well although I'm not sure which ones. Firefox itself is fine though. Bit gutted I don't have my ADC Select membership any more so didn't get the developer seeds :(

Gonna get another 2gig of RAM and a larger external HDD for Time Machine before upgrading. I've heard great things about Leopard but my Mac is my main machine at home and I'd be lost without it so I'm going to hold off.

Unless I used CCC to clone my current Tiger installation to my Firewire drive, installed Leopard on my main, then I could boot and run Tiger from the external if things went belly up. Hrm...

Let us know how you get on, Ray!

Comment 19 by Giancarlo Gomez posted on 10/26/2007 at 7:31 PM

All my Macs will be in the upgrade service line today! Can't wait, FedEx needs to drive a little faster.

Comment 20 by Scott Stroz posted on 10/26/2007 at 7:38 PM

How's the Kool-Aid guys?

Comment 21 by Mark W. Breneman posted on 10/26/2007 at 7:57 PM

Yum, the Kool-Aid is good and so is the apple juice.

Well at the very least it takes the run of the mill Friday and makes it interesting.

I too would not think of installing Leopard with out a boot able clone of Tiger.

Too Bad I gotta wait till I get home. Leopard was delivered about 20 mins ago to my house.

Any more word about Leopard having problems with CF8. If so, is it an installing issue or a upgrade issue?

Comment 22 by dave posted on 10/26/2007 at 8:10 PM

mine just got here too :)

Comment 23 by Raymond Camden posted on 10/26/2007 at 8:14 PM

Status:

So far so good. I've been playing a bit - but I've got real work to do.

CF started -but the Apache server was updated, and I'm ashamed to admit I have no idea where the conf file is now.

My existing CF did start- but inthe logs I see troublesome messages. Once I find Apache, reconnect, and try, I'll let folks know.

Comment 24 by Chris Mallinson posted on 10/26/2007 at 8:52 PM

It's on a truck for delivery according to the courier's website. I'll be looking out my window until it arrives.

Comment 25 by Alfio Raymond posted on 10/26/2007 at 9:25 PM

Totally picking it up but want to get an external hard drive with it so 1. Can back up my data and 2. so I can use timeline feature. Probably will grab it tomorrow after the craziness wears down.

Comment 26 by Sammy Larbi posted on 10/26/2007 at 9:55 PM

Ray,

May I suggest a "10.4 to 10.5 migration guide - what you need to know" blog post?

Comment 27 by Raymond Camden posted on 10/26/2007 at 9:59 PM

So far my only hitch is CF. It seems close - but not quite there yet.

Comment 28 by Larry C. Lyons posted on 10/26/2007 at 10:23 PM

Ray,

Keep us appraised. I'm running CF8 on my current OSX install and am holding off until CF runs on Leopard OK.

BTW which version of CF are you running, enterprise or standalone.

thx,
larry

Comment 29 by Raymond Camden posted on 10/26/2007 at 10:26 PM

Ok, did a virgin install. Told it NOT to connect. Got to the end of the install and it said there were errors with the web server connector. I'm not sure why. I told it not to connect. I ran the CF Launcher. Started CF. No problems there. Tried to hit localhost:8500 and no go. No error and no response.

Comment 30 by Ken Dunnington posted on 10/26/2007 at 10:58 PM

Still waiting for my copy :( I have to admit, if I get it today, I will be installing it at home right away. Figuring out problems from new system installs has been a favorite pastime for years. :)

Ray, does Leopard still come with Apache 1.3 installed? I've always found the JRun connector for 1.3 to be flakey, so I've been running it on a custom install of 2.0.52 for some time now on OS X (and 2.2 on Ubuntu - which reminds me that I need to upgrade 2 more dev servers at work with 7.10 - it's a good week for non-Microsoft operating systems!)

Comment 31 by Raymond Camden posted on 10/26/2007 at 11:03 PM

Someone in IRC said it was a newer Apache. Don't know the exact v offhand. Remember I'm still a bit of a Mac noob myself. ;)

Comment 32 by Sam Farmer posted on 10/26/2007 at 11:45 PM

What about just using the CF built in web server?

The exact Apache version is posted on Matt Woodwards blog.

(I don't use Apache in production so I'm happy using it.)

Comment 33 by Raymond Camden posted on 10/26/2007 at 11:46 PM

Sam,that's what I did in my last comment "told it not to connect".

Comment 34 by Sam Farmer posted on 10/27/2007 at 12:09 AM

Ah, gotcha. For some reason I thought you where trying with Apache.

Its Apache version 2.2.6

Comment 35 by Lance posted on 10/27/2007 at 12:54 AM

I got mine at 10:30 a.m. this morning! Woohoo!

Comment 36 by Raymond Camden posted on 10/27/2007 at 12:59 AM

Next week I'm going to transition my web stuff to my Windows box and then I'll upgrade my OS on my desktop.

So far - only one thing concerns me. Finder. There is a noticeable pause as I migrate. The pause is maybe .5 seconds... and maybe I'm imagining it. But I see it.

To be fair, I barely used Leopard today as I had some complex ecom work I was doing. Tonight (barring the amount of beer I drink) I'll play with it a bit more.

I actually didn't know a lot of the new cool features. It looks like RDP type stuff is built in and NOT extra now? If so - that is quite cool.

I'll also blog again in a few days if I have anything major to say.

Comment 37 by Derek posted on 10/27/2007 at 1:32 AM

So, can this be set up on a PC now or what?

Comment 38 by Giancarlo Gomez posted on 10/27/2007 at 1:37 AM

Woo hooo... just got mine!!!!!!! First of 3 macs are in the upgrade process.

Comment 39 by ccs posted on 10/27/2007 at 4:23 AM

no dice running cf8 or cf7 on leopard (both attempted with the built in web server). i have a powerbook g4. cf7 and cf8 ran fine with the built in web server on tiger on this mac. doh.

Comment 40 by Josh Hand posted on 10/27/2007 at 4:45 AM

I upgraded my MacBook yesterday and I sill can't get mysql or cf8 to go. I upgraded mysql to 5.0.45 but still on luck, both worked on Tiger.

Comment 41 by Yves posted on 10/27/2007 at 5:16 AM

We could not get it to work on the ADC builds of Leopard. We got some Java errors starting the CF server in MultiServer configuration using the internal web server.

Weird because Leopard is still on Java 1.5.

I wonder if install de Developer Preview of Java 1.6 would solve the issuer..... or make it worst.....

Comment 42 by Russ Johnson posted on 10/27/2007 at 5:33 AM

I managed to get MySQL running... Im going to blog a solution just to keep it from getting lost in the comments.

My CF 8 install will not start though, get this error in the log:

The process has forked and you cannot use this CoreFoundation functionality safely. You MUST exec().
Break on __THE_PROCESS_HAS_FORKED_AND_YOU_CANNOT_USE_THIS_COREFOUNDATION_FUNCTIONALITY___YOU_MUST_EXEC__() to debug.

Comment 43 by Raymond Camden posted on 10/27/2007 at 5:39 AM

I saw the same errors Russ. I'm having issues w/ my web server in general now. Luckily I still have my desktop.

Comment 44 by John Hofmann posted on 10/27/2007 at 6:07 AM

Upgraded this afternoon. Same problems as Raymond but my MySQL (5.0.37) has been fine.

Comment 45 by Yves posted on 10/27/2007 at 7:01 AM

Adobe just stated that many of their products are compatible with Leopard today but that we would have to wait until January 2008 to get an updated Acrobat READER 8 for Leopard...!!!... Yes the reader..

At that pace I wonder when CF8 will be ready for Leopard !!

I do not mean to be negative but by judging how long Adobe took to make their product compatible with Tiger when it came out I do not think that we should hold our breath...

Still, lets hope for the best !!

Comment 46 by dave posted on 10/27/2007 at 7:08 AM

my acrobat reader is working fine in Leopard

Comment 47 by John Hofmann posted on 10/27/2007 at 7:22 AM

Yves, my guess is they don't worry so much about Reader given OS X has Preview. All my CS 3 apps seem to be fine. Then again, your mileage may vary.....

Comment 48 by Kyle Hayes posted on 10/27/2007 at 9:56 AM

Installed.

Comment 49 by Lee posted on 10/27/2007 at 2:14 PM

Hmm, ColdFusion is not working in my Mac after installing Leopard... Anyone has the same problem with me???

Comment 50 by Lola LB posted on 10/27/2007 at 3:54 PM

Hmm . . . I think I'm going to hold off a bit on upgrading to Leopard until the CF8 issues have been fixed. Being as this Mac laptop is the only Mac I have . . .

Comment 51 by Chris posted on 10/27/2007 at 4:37 PM

Yes.... no joy with my CF admin (using the :8500 built in server) ... but
in fact i dont even get a response from apache' at http://localhost/

not sure where to begin troubleshooting...

bummer

Comment 52 by Raymond Camden posted on 10/27/2007 at 5:06 PM

Chris, you probably checked this - but just in case - my Apache was set to run automatically before Leopard. After it was turned off. So I turned it on. My Apache is running again - I just had to remove the CFM related lines.

Comment 53 by James Edmunds posted on 10/27/2007 at 7:45 PM

I'm thinking I might be buying a MacBook after the first of the year (delaying for tax reasons) and I am depending on all you guys to develop solid fixes / strategies for these CF and MySQL issues by then! SO, thanks in advance!

Comment 54 by Michael McConnell posted on 10/27/2007 at 7:46 PM

I, too, am a new Mac user. After attending MAX this year in Chicago, I noticed that about 3 out of every 5 laptops I saw in use were Macbooks. Intrigued by this, I decided to spend some of my equipment budget, which I seem to be underrunning this year, to see what all the fuss was about so I purchased a 15" MacBook Pro with 4GB RAM. I was hooked after about an hour. This thing just works and it works well ALL the time. What I was most impressed about was the fact that I could take my VM images (created on the PC version of VMWare) and run them in VMWare Fusion without modification. I generally run two concurrent VM images. They are both Windows 2003 servers. One server runs IIS with CF8 (plus some other Windows services) and the other runs Exchange Server 2003 and serves as an Active Directory PDC. This allows me to approximate my Windows production environment and use the new CFExchange* tags in CF8 without worrying about blowing up my production Exchange box. I think I have arrived at an ideal development environment using this Mac. Host and guest system performance on my Mac is FAR superior to the same environment on my Vista PC. Memory management seems to be better and processor utilization is about 25% improved over the same development environment on my Vista box. I love this thing. Anyway....I received my Leopard DVD at about 10:30 yesterday and I was upgraded by lunch time (although I sort of cheated and skipped the DVD verification step which seemed to be taking an excessively long time to run). Everything ran fine post upgrade....DreamWeaver, Flex 2, Flex 3, and, most importantly, VMWare Fusion and my VM images. Also, Leopard seems to have introduced some new networking interfaces/utilities that make it easier to work in a Windows environment (admittedly, these tools may have existed in Tiger, but I have not been a Mac user long enough to have found them) and map network drives. Overall, I'm extremely pleased with the upgrade. If you have not played with TimeMachine yet, it's great technology. The cover-flow file browser ain't bad either....

Good luck getting your native Mac apps running. I'm sure we'll see solutions posted in the next couple of days.

M. McConnell

Comment 55 by Yves posted on 10/27/2007 at 8:42 PM

Ray I hope that you will use your "contacts" inside Adobe to get a status of the problem and maybe convince them to work rapidly at addressing this problem

I know that there is some work in progress updating JRUN4 (updater 7) to "run with newer OS" as per Ben Forta. Maybe the solutions lies there !! I tried to apply for that beta testing round but no one got back to me. This is unfortunate because I know about the CF8 - Leopard problem for over a month now since I was getting the ADC builds....

With a late august build CF8 wouldn't even begin to boot... with a later build CF8 would start but fail mid way during the startup (with the error someone else mentionned above).

I plan to keep my production servers on Tiger for a LONG time, no rush there. But all developers here would love to update their Mac to Leopard, so do I !!

I could probably do the Fusion thing for the moment !!

Yves

Comment 56 by Josh Hand posted on 10/28/2007 at 2:27 AM

I know this isn't the perfect solution for everyone but to fix the problem of mysql not starting change the permissions on the mysql folder to 777.

IE:
cd /usr/local/
sudo chmod -R 777 mysql-5.0.45-osx10.4-i686

Comment 57 by Scott P posted on 10/28/2007 at 3:29 AM

CF installed in multiserver runs. Mark Drew actually said this first so credit goes to him. I started cf from terminal using
/Applications/JRun4/bin/jrun -start admin&
then
/Applications/JRun4/bin/jrun -start cfusion&

http://127.0.0.1:8300/CFIDE/administrator

For the apache2 connector, I'm getting this error:
no suitable image found. Did find:\n\t/Applications/JRun4/lib/wsconfig/1/mod_jrun22.so: mach-o, but wrong architecture

I'm still digging away at it if anyone has any ideas.

Comment 58 by Kurt Wiersma posted on 10/28/2007 at 5:10 AM

@Scott P

I actually didn't need to reinstall the multiserver version and am at the same error. I even recompiled the apache connector using the wsconfig tool. It appears that the wsconfig tool doesn't support apache 2.2.x on OS X intel. I got the impression from Mark's post that he had apache working too so I wonder if there is a way around this. I thought he has an intel machine.

Comment 59 by John Hofmann posted on 10/28/2007 at 6:34 AM

I am up and running now. I installed a multiserver version. All is running fine through JRUN on port 8300. I am abandoning Apache integration for now. Since my MacBook is a Dev machine I really don't need the integration locally. I am pretty happy just to get it running!

Comment 60 by dave posted on 10/28/2007 at 8:16 AM

ok even I have gotten it to work.

do a fresh install, choose multi-server, when you get to the connectors screen choose built-in server and install.

that will install it to /applications/jrun4

open up jrun4 and click on the coldfusion launcher which will bring up the jrun panel.

1. start jrun
2. open terminal and put in
sudo /Applications/JRun4/bin/jrun -start cfusion
and hit enter and coldfusion will start, it's kinda the same as it was when tiger launched.
then browse to http://localhost:8300/CFIDE/administrator/index.cfm

Comment 61 by James Robinson posted on 10/28/2007 at 12:10 PM

Big thank you to all of you, I just got it working using the post above. Multiserver Config and starting through terminal.

Many thanks. i can stop installed that VM now! : >

Comment 62 by Aaron West posted on 10/28/2007 at 8:47 PM

Just subscribing to this entry.... Ray, I wish there was a way - with blogCFC - to subscribe to posts w/o submitting a comment. Maybe in v6? *hint*

Comment 63 by Philipp Cielen posted on 10/28/2007 at 10:30 PM

Good to hear that CF 8 is running on Leopard. I was holding back from installing it here because I suspected that CF would not run. Any news from Adobe on this? Has anyone tried to manually configure the CF connnector in the Apache .conf files? Guess this is what I will try tonight after installing Leopard. Btw. - Ray, the layout of the add comments window looks rather strange in Safari.

Comment 64 by Raymond Camden posted on 10/28/2007 at 11:54 PM

@Phillip - Is it Safari 2? Safari 3 seems ok with my site.
@Aaron - Agreed. :)

Comment 65 by dave posted on 10/29/2007 at 12:46 AM

Since there is a few steps to get it going if you reboot... This is a good chance to mess with the new Automator actions :)

Comment 66 by Raymond Camden posted on 10/29/2007 at 12:57 AM

I've never used Automator. Got any good examples of what I would use it for?

Comment 67 by Lola LB posted on 10/29/2007 at 1:05 AM

Automator is basically AppleScript on steroids. From what I understand, you can have Automator record what you're doing, and then create a script of your actions and you just click on the recorded script. Apple has a page with examples you can download.

Comment 68 by Larry C. Lyons posted on 10/29/2007 at 4:05 AM

FWIW on House Of Fusion's CF-Mac list, Ulf Unger figured out how to compile and run Apache 2.2 on Leopard http://www.houseoffusion.co...

HTH,

larry

Comment 69 by dave posted on 10/29/2007 at 7:31 AM

Ray,
Automator is used to make repetitive tasks simple. For example, I have one setup to clean up and optimize images for the web, so when I drop photos in this folder it starts and opens up PS and crops them then sharpens them then moves them to another folder and they are ready for me.

In this particular case where you need to start jrun then open terminal and add the cfm start code, you could have automator record your actions and make a droplet on desktop and then if you have to reboot you can just click on the droplet and it will do it all.

Another example that I use is for making new site templates, it's nothing more that making folders and putting a few files in there like Application.cfc and styles.css but it saves tons of time.

Now that you can hit the record button it becomes really easy to do a lot of things, open up automator and look at all the example scripts it already has in it.

you can share them too
http://www.apple.com/downlo...

Comment 70 by Philipp Cielen posted on 10/29/2007 at 9:46 PM

@Ray: I'm using Safari 2.0.4. This is what I get: http://www.cielen.com/downl... - if I resize the window and make it wider it gets a little better but the headlines still aren't located where they are supposed to be. I'll try again later with Safari 3.

Comment 71 by Raymond Camden posted on 10/29/2007 at 9:49 PM

Ok. As it seems good for Safari 3, and Safari is a -very- small percentage of my visitors - I'll probably just ignore for now.

Comment 72 by Jonas Eriksson posted on 10/31/2007 at 10:07 PM

I installed it last Saturday on an old 1.25 GHz G4 PowerBook and it runs faster. No doubt. With the new Aperture 1.5.6, it's actually useable again. Installed a day later on a separate partition on my Power Mac, no issues at all. Still running OS X 10.4.10 on our Apple XServe though, no need to be overly curious... ;-)

Comment 73 by Trond Ulseth posted on 3/13/2008 at 4:02 PM

I finally made it work using the terminal commands provided by Scott P further up the thread.

I also found that if I close my terminal window after running this commands I kill cf, so I have to keep the terminal window opened. Not a big problem.

Did anyone manage to create an Automator app that would run these commands for you? I tried to dabble around in Automator a bit, but did not succeed.

Comment 74 by Raymond Camden posted on 3/20/2009 at 9:55 PM

@Chris Mallinson: Sorry to 'abuse' the thread for something off topic. Chris, I got your wishlist items today. Thank you!